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[TumeniNodes]

ContentDB is gonna start getting a little plump

So, what happens if a mod (or whatever) is already accepted onto CDB, has already been checked out, approved, categorized, etc... and then the developer pushes some changes, which add blood/gore, strong language, adult content...?
How can a situation like that be addressed? Seeing as we are on a sort of "what if" excursion.

[rubenwardy]

Providing the appropriate labels are then added, clients with content restrictions will never update to the gorey version as they will never be told that there is an update

[DELTA_FORCE]

Not a bad idea, but I think the only mods that should be removed are ones that:
Do nothing but add bad content (Would be reviewed by multiple people)
Do harm to the hosts computer
Just pointless things like one single color block
Mods that make the game unplayable, or make the game not fun to play
Other than that, I think signing in wouldn't be a bad idea for seeing "Mature" mods

[BBmine]

I am in favor of making nudity/drugs opt-in. Older kids and adults can probably handle it, but little kids? Imagine if you were 10 and your mom walked in on you while you were scrolling through the Minetest mod store, and there is the drug mod. "Johnny! This game is teaching you that it's okay to do drugs! Don't ever play that again!"

[migdyn]

Sex and drugs not allowed?
So that means my ecigarettes mod would be banned?

[migdyn]

He's porbably required by law. There's a big problem with censorship in Germany and the UK

[DELTA_FORCE]

It is just common sense. I try to make appropriate content anyways, because I feel sexual or drug-related content is just pointless making.
Also, if you would make a mod, why would you add E-cigarettes? I doubt it does anything to help the user experience.

[migdyn]

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[PolySaken]

Bloodmagic 2 is gonna get oofed if you make a rating system
personally I think that if someone sees a mod/game they don't like, they can just choose to not use it.

[migdyn]

Or you could just make a bunch of checkboxes that you would check if you want to see some sex mods or drug mods

[wziard]

Or you could just make a bunch of checkboxes that you would check if you want to see some sex mods or drug mods

And rock'n'roll! Can't have sex n drugs without rockn'n'roll!

:-D

[TumeniNodes]

It's a "game", it attracts kids... it's not a place for sexual/drug content.
We will never support or condone or provide an environment for trying to normalize exposing children to sexual content or drugs, regardless of anyone's opinion.
You want that, there's plenty on the internet or even cable tv.
You have to have it so bad in-game, then make your own private mod

[migdyn]

Then maybe they should also stop transmitting movies and other shows with drug use or other inapprioriate elemnts because there's a chance that a kid will watch it? It's the parents responsibilty to protect his children

[TumeniNodes]

Then maybe they should also stop transmitting movies and other shows with drug use or other inapprioriate elemnts because there's a chance that a kid will watch it? It's the parents responsibilty to protect his children

What do those have to do with the Minetest community or product?
or the CDB project specifically?

Look, if you are a parent, and you do not want your children exposed to such things, then yes... it is your job to "parent"
If you do want to expose your children to these things, then it is your job to not allow them access to Minetest or any of it's community.

[Badger16]

Not a bad idea, but I think the only mods that should be removed are ones that:
Do nothing but add bad content (Would be reviewed by multiple people)
Other than that, I think signing in wouldn't be a bad idea for seeing "Mature" mods

Sounds good to me. The ones adding only bad content could be flagged and then removed if most of the deciders (moderators, polled users) vote for it, and it makes sense to classify mature (sexual/drug related) content as opt-in content.

[migdyn]

Not a bad idea, but I think the only mods that should be removed are ones that:
Do nothing but add bad content (Would be reviewed by multiple people)
Other than that, I think signing in wouldn't be a bad idea for seeing "Mature" mods

Sounds good to me. The ones adding only bad content could be flagged and then removed if most of the deciders (moderators, polled users) vote for it, and it makes sense to classify mature (sexual/drug related) content as opt-in content.

This would be easy to abuse. People could use bots to mass auto-flag mods and remove them

[Badger16]

That's why I was saying that the users could first flag the content for the (human) mods to look at it, and then, they could either choose to hide the content by talking between themselves, or if they want to, by opening a poll on the forum or on a similar resource. Flagging will just give the mods a notification, and then they would have the final word on whether they should remove the content or not.

[Astrobe]

Besides inappropriate content, there's also what I would call "low QA" content, that is mods that will crash the game because of mistakes in the script (we all make bugs, but some bugs are more obvious than others...).

It seems to me that the two issues are related, in the sense that some sort of vetting or approval would help solve the issue.

ContentDB can link to forum posts, and the procedure on the forum is to submit content to "WIP" then request a move to "Release", so maybe one could leverage this? The persons doing this could create a poll if they are unsure the content is suitable (not inappropriate, well tested) for ContentDB.

[shamwow420]

Then maybe they should also stop transmitting movies and other shows with drug use or other inapprioriate elemnts because there's a chance that a kid will watch it? It's the parents responsibilty to protect his children

Every kid I know comes back from their first week of first grade knowing every thing about sex, drugs and cussing.
The Internet is the wild west and that's good. Trying to parent the internet is a waste. Allow xrated mods.

[TumeniNodes]

Every kid I know comes back from their first week of first grade knowing every thing about sex, drugs and cussing.

I guess society should feel very proud of such progress

The Internet is the wild west and that's good.

Is it?

Trying to parent the internet is a waste.

Most people stopped "parenting" a long time ago, which is how we got to this point.

Allow xrated mods.

No

[Astrobe]

Then maybe they should also stop transmitting movies and other shows with drug use or other inapprioriate elemnts because there's a chance that a kid will watch it? It's the parents responsibilty to protect his children

Every kid I know comes back from their first week of first grade knowing every thing about sex, drugs and cussing.
The Internet is the wild west and that's good. Trying to parent the internet is a waste. Allow xrated mods.

The broken window theory in action.

[PolySaken]

Have a subsection for mods that pass a certain threshhold. Add a setting to enable viewing of said section. Done and done

[migdyn]

Then maybe they should also stop transmitting movies and other shows with drug use or other inapprioriate elemnts because there's a chance that a kid will watch it? It's the parents responsibilty to protect his children

Every kid I know comes back from their first week of first grade knowing every thing about sex, drugs and cussing.
The Internet is the wild west and that's good. Trying to parent the internet is a waste. Allow xrated mods.

That was sarcasm. S*xual mods should be banned, but everything else (drug use, alcohol, violence, horror) should not be. For example, did you get drunk in real life because you played the beer test mod, or did playing with the drug mod make you want to try real drugs? No. It's fiction.

[Astrobe]

Then maybe they should also stop transmitting movies and other shows with drug use or other inapprioriate elemnts because there's a chance that a kid will watch it? It's the parents responsibilty to protect his children

Every kid I know comes back from their first week of first grade knowing every thing about sex, drugs and cussing.
The Internet is the wild west and that's good. Trying to parent the internet is a waste. Allow xrated mods.

That was sarcasm. S*xual mods should be banned, but everything else (drug use, alcohol, violence, horror) should [not?] be. For example, did you get drunk in real life because you played the beer test mod, or did playing with the drug mod make you want to try real drugs? No. It's fiction.

That's a simplistic reasoning and you know it. "Inappropriate material" indeed rarely lead immediately to "inappropriate behavior", but there is a desensitization effect that should be considered.

[Linuxdirk]

S*xual mods should be banned […]

Why?