Let's talk about combat

[Hume2]

I agree that durability of armour should be scaled as well but scaling armour efficiency is pointless because it's in percent.

[sorcerykid]

I think the main issue here is that the punch action of tools is instantaneous, regardless of the specified punch interval. The damage system attempts to impose a "delay" afterward via an obtuse calculation. There is no visual feedback of the actual punch interval, hence the deceptive nature of the damage system.

So rather than refining the calculation, I think the overall game mechanic of "punching" needs to be re-evaluated so as to ensure the animation speed corresponds with the punch interval, hence the very slow swing of stone sword vs. the quick swing of a diamond sword. Until the animation ends, then spam-clicking will be ignored.

[PolySaken]

I think the main issue here is that the punch action of tools is instantaneous, regardless of the specified punch interval. The damage system attempts to impose a "delay" afterward via an obtuse calculation. There is no visual feedback of the actual punch interval, hence the deceptive nature of the damage system.

So rather than refining the calculation, I think the overall game mechanic of "punching" needs to be re-evaluated so as to ensure the animation speed corresponds with the punch interval, hence the very slow swing of stone sword vs. the quick swing of a diamond sword. Until the animation ends, then spam-clicking will be ignored.

I agree, partly.
I think what we really need is the ability to define animations for items.
This could then be used to make the animations follow the full_punch_interval speed limit.

[Hume2]

Yes, this is another solution. Make it so players can do only full punches. When the players click during the punch, it could be just ignored.

Maybe there could be also a min_punch_interval which would say how often the player can use the weapon. If he uses the weapon before the min_punch_interval runs out, no action would be performed. And the full damage would be dealt after the full_punch_interval runs out. If min_punch_interval and full_punch_interval is the same, it works the same as suggested by sorcerykid.

[Astrobe]

I'm pretty sure that the time it takes for holding hand to come back to the "rest" position is a function of punch_interval. Or do I miss something?

[sorcerykid]

I'm pretty sure that the time it takes for holding hand to come back to the "rest" position is a function of punch_interval. Or do I miss something?

That's a good question. Has anybody tested to see if this is case? I thought the punching animation was the same for all wielded items (even non-tools) O_o

[PolySaken]

I'm pretty sure that the time it takes for holding hand to come back to the "rest" position is a function of punch_interval. Or do I miss something?

That's a good question. Has anybody tested to see if this is case? I thought the punching animation was the same for all wielded items (even non-tools) O_o

Yes, the animation is slowed.
(I used an item with 0 interval and one with 10, there was a big difference.)
edit: apparently it only happens when pointed_thing is an object, so it's easy to miss.

[PolySaken]

I made a video showing it:
YouTube